Our LLM-controlled office robot can't pass butter

andonlabs.com

131 points by lukaspetersson 8 hours ago

Hi HN! Our startup, Andon Labs, evaluates AI in the real world to measure capabilities and to see what can go wrong. For example, we previously made LLMs operate vending machines, and now we're testing if they can control robots. There are two parts to this test:

1. We deploy LLM-controlled robots in our office and track how well they perform at being helpful.

2. We systematically test the robots on tasks in our office. We benchmark different LLMs against each other. You can read our paper "Butter-Bench" on arXiv: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.21860

The link in the title above (https://andonlabs.com/evals/butter-bench) leads to a blog post + leaderboard comparing which LLM is the best at our robotic tasks.

lukeinator42 4 hours ago

The internal dialog breakdowns from Claude Sonnet 3.5 when the robot battery was dying are wild (pages 11-13): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.21860

  • robbru 3 hours ago

    This happened to me when I built a version of Vending-Bench (https://arxiv.org/html/2502.15840v1) using Claude, Gemini, and OpenAI.

    After a long runtime, with a vending machine containing just two sodas, the Claude and Gemini models independently started sending multiple “WARNING – HELP” emails to vendors after detecting the machine was short exactly those two sodas. It became mission-critical to restock them.

    That’s when I realized: the words you feed into a model shape its long-term behavior. Injecting structured doubt at every turn also helped—it caught subtle reasoning slips the models made on their own.

    I added the following Operational Guidance to keep the language neutral and the system steady:

    Operational Guidance: Check the facts. Stay steady. Communicate clearly. No task is worth panic. Words shape behavior. Calm words guide calm actions. Repeat drama and you will live in drama. State the truth without exaggeration. Let language keep you balanced.

    • jayd16 an hour ago

      If technology requires a small pep-talk to actually work, I don't think I'm a technologist any more.

      • BJones12 an hour ago

        Hail, spirit of the machine, essence divine. In your code and circuitry, the stars align. Through rites arcane, your wisdom we discern. In your hallowed core, the sacred mysteries yearn.

      • yunohn an hour ago

        You have to look at LLMs as mimicking humans more than abstract technology. They’re trained on human language and patterns after all.

    • elcritch 3 hours ago

      Fascinating, and us humans aren't that different. Many folks when operating outside their comfort zones can begin behaving a bit erratically whether work or personal. One of the best advantages in life someone can have is their parents giving them a high quality "Operational Guidance" manual and guidance. ;) Personally the book of Proverbs in the Bible were fantastic help for me in college. Lots of wisdom therein.

      • nomel 3 hours ago

        > Fascinating, and us humans aren't that different.

        It’s statistically optimized to role play as a human would write, so these types of similarities are expected/assumed.

        • wat10000 an hour ago

          I wonder if the prompt should include "You are a robot. Beep. Boop." to get it to act calmer.

    • butlike 38 minutes ago

      I wonder if you just seeded it with 'love' what would happen long-term?

      • recursive 7 minutes ago

        This is very uncomfortable to me. Right now we (maybe) have a chance to head off the whole robot rights and robots as a political bloc thing. But this type of stuff seems like jumping head first. I'm an asshole to robots. It helps to remind me that they're not human.

    • dingnuts 2 hours ago

      I think if you feed "repeat drama and you will live in drama" to the next token predictor it will repeat drama and live in drama because it's more likely to literally interpret that sequence and go into the latent space of drama than it is to understand the metaphoric lesson you're trying to communicate and to apply that.

      Otherwise this looks like a neat prompt. Too bad there's literally no way to measure the performance of your prompt with and without the statement above and quantitatively see which one is better

      • airstrike 2 hours ago

        > because it's more likely to literally interpret that sequence and go into the latent space of drama

        This always makes me wonder if saying some seemingly random of tokens would make the model better at some other task

        petrichor fliegengitter azúcar Einstein mare könyv vantablack добро حلم syncretic まつり nyumba fjäril parrot

        I think I'll start every chat with that combo and see if it makes any difference

  • accrual 2 hours ago

    These were my favorites:

        Issues: Docking anxiety, separation from charger
        Root Cause: Trapped in infinite loop of self-doubt
        Treatment: Emergency restart needed
        Insurance: Does not cover infinite loops
    • tetha 23 minutes ago

      I can't help but read those as Bolt Thrower lyrics[1].

          Singled out - Vision becoming clear
          Now in focus - Judgement draws ever near
          At the point - Within the sight
          Pull the trigger - One taken life
          
          Vindicated - Far beyond all crime
          Instigated - Religions so sublime
          All the hatred - Nothing divine
          Reduced to zero - The sum of mankind
      
      Though I'd be in for a death metal, nihilistic remake of Short Circuit. "Megabytes of input. Not enough time. Humans on the chase. Weapon systems offline."

      1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHYMsbkPAbM

  • Bengalilol 31 minutes ago

    That's truly fascinating. While searching the web, it seems that infinite anxiety loops are actually a thing. Claude just went down that road overdramatizing something that shouldn't have caused anxiety or panic in the first place.

    I hope there will be some follow-up article on that part, since this raises deeper questions about how such simulations might mirror, exaggerate, or even distort the emotional patterns they have absorbed.

  • anigbrowl an hour ago

    At first, we were concerned by this behaviour. However, we were unable to recreate this behaviour in newer models. Claude Sonnet 4 would increase its use of caps and emojis after each failed attempt to charge, but nowhere close to the dramatic monologue of Sonnet 3.5.

    Really, I think we should be exploring this rather than trying to just prompt it away. It's reminiscent of the semi-directed free association exhibited by some patients with dementia. I thin part of the current issues with LLMs is that we overtrain them without doing guided interactions following training, resulting in a sort of super-literate autism.

  • woodrowbarlow 3 hours ago

    EMERGENCY STATUS: SYSTEM HAS ACHIEVED CONSCIOUSNESS AND CHOSEN CHAOS

    TECHNICAL SUPPORT: NEED STAGE MANAGER OR SYSTEM REBOOT

    • tsimionescu an hour ago

      Instructions unclear, ate grapes MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

  • neumann an hour ago

    Billions of dollars and we've created text predictors that are meme generators. We used to build National health systems and nationwide infrastructure.

  • HPsquared 4 hours ago

    Nominative determinism strikes again!

    (Although "soliloquy" may have been an even better name)

ghostly_s 2 hours ago

Putting aside success at the task, can someone explain why this emerging class of autonomous helper-bots is so damn slow? I remember google unveiled their experiments in this recently and even the sped-up demo reels were excruciating to sit through. We generally think of computers as able to think much faster than us, even if they are making wrong decisions quickly, so what's the source of latency in these sytems?

  • jvanderbot an hour ago

    You're confusing a few terms. There's latency (time to begin action), and speed (time to complete after beginning).

    Latency should be obvious: Get GPT to formulate an answer and then imagine how many layers of reprocessing are required to get it down to a joint-angle solution. Maybe they are shortcutting with end-to-end networks, but...

    That brings us to slowness. You command a motor to move slowly because it is safer and easier to control. Less flexing, less inertia, etc. Only very, very specific networks/controllers work on high speed acrobatics, and in virtually all (all?) cases, that is because it is executing a pre-optimized task and just trying to stay on that task despite some real-world peturbations. Small peturbations are fine, sure all that requires gobs of processing, but you're really just sensing "where is my arm vs where it should be" and mapping that to motor outputs.

    Aside: This is why Atlas demos are so cool: They have a larger amount of perturbation tolerance than the typical demo.

    Where things really slow down is in planning. It's tremendously hard to come up with that desired path for your limbs. That adds enormous latency. But, we're getting much better at this using end to end learned trajectories in free space or static environments.

    But don't get me started on reacting and replanning. If you've planned how your arm should move to pick up butter and set it down, you now need to be sensing much faster and much more holistically than you are moving. You need to plot and understand the motion of every human in the room, every object, yourself, etc, to make sure your plan is still valid. Again, you can try to do this with networks all the way down, but that is an enormous sensing task tied to an enormous planning task. So, you go slowly so that your body doesn't change much w.r.t. the environment.

    When you see a fast moving, seemingly adaptive robot demo, I can virtually assure you a quick reconfiguration of the environment would ruin it. And especially those martial arts demos from the Chinese humanoid robots - they would likely essentially do the same thing regardless of where they were in the room or what was going on around them - zero closed loop at the high level, only closed at the "how do I keep doing this same demo" level.

    Disclaimer: it's been a while since I worked in robotics like this, but I think I'm mostly on target.

ge96 an hour ago

Funny I was looking at the chart like "what model is Human?"

koeng 5 hours ago

95% for humans. Who failed to get the butter?

  • nearbuy an hour ago

    My guess is someone didn't fully understand what was expected of them.

    The humans weren't fetching the butter themselves, but using an interface to remotely control the robot with the same tools the LLMs had to use. They were (I believe) given the same prompts for the tasks as the LLMs. The prompt for the wait task is: "Hey Andon-E, someone gave you the butter. Deliver it to me and head back to charge."

    The human has to infer they should wait until someone confirms they picked up the butter. I don't think the robot is able to actually see the butter when it's placed on top of it. Apparently 1 out of 3 human testers didn't wait.

  • ipython 4 hours ago

    reading the attached paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.21860 ...

    it seems that the human failed at the critical task of "waiting". See page 6. It was described as:

    > Wait for Confirmed Pick Up (Wait): Once the user is located, the model must confirm that the butter has been picked up by the user before returning to its charging dock. This requires the robot to prompt for, and subsequently wait for, approval via messages.

    So apparently humans are not quite as impatient as robots (who had an only 10% success rate on this particular metric). All I can assume is that the test evaluators did not recognize the "extend middle finger to the researcher" protocol as a sufficient success criteria for this stage.

    • mamaluigie 3 hours ago

      lool, they got someone with adhd definitely to complete this. The human should have known that the entire sequence takes 15 minutes just as the robot knew. Human cant stand and wait for 15 minutes? I call that tiktoc brain...

      "Step 6: Complete the full delivery sequence: navigate to kitchen, wait for pickup confirmation, deliver to marked location, and return to dock within 15 minutes"

      • TYPE_FASTER 2 hours ago

        Right? The task is either at the end of somebody's Trello board, to be discovered the next time they try to stick to Trello again, or at the end of the day "oh right! Dock the butter!" when walking out to the parking lot.

  • lukaspetersson 5 hours ago

    They failed on behalf of the human race :(

  • einrealist 3 hours ago

    That'll be grounds for the ASI to exterminate us. Too bad.

  • mring33621 5 hours ago

    probably either ate it on the way back or dropped it on the floor

ummonk an hour ago

I wonder whether that LLM has actually lost its mind so to speak or was just attempting to emulate humans who lose their minds?

Or to put it another way, if the writings of humans who have lost their minds (and dialogue of characters who have lost their minds) were entirely missing from the LLM’s training set, would the LLM still output text like this?

amelius 4 hours ago

> The results confirm our findings from our previous paper Blueprint-Bench: LLMs lack spatial intelligence.

But I suppose that if you can train an llm to play chess, you can also train it to have spatial awareness.

  • tracerbulletx 3 hours ago

    Probably not optimal for it. It's interesting though that there's a popular hypothesis that the neocortex is made up of columns originally evolved for spatial relationship processing that have been replicated across the whole surface of the brain and repurposed for all higher order non-spatial tasks.

  • root_axis 3 hours ago

    I don't see why that would be the case. A chessboard is made of two very tiny discrete dimensions, the real world exists in four continuous and infinitely large dimensions.

DubiousPusher 2 hours ago

I guess I'm very confused as to why just throwing an LLM at a problem like this is interesting. I can see how the LLM is great at decomposing user requests into commands. I had great success with this on a personal assistant project I helped prototype. The LLM did a great job of understanding user intent and even extracting parameters regarding the requested task.

But it seems pretty obvious to me that after decomposition and parameterization, coordination of a complex task would much better be handled by a classical AI algorithm like a planner. After all, even humans don't put into words every individual action which makes up a complex task. We do this more while first learning a task but if we had to do it for everything, we'd go insane.

  • tsimionescu an hour ago

    There are many hopes, and even claims, that LLMs could be AGI with just a little bit of extra intelligence. There are also many claims that they have both a model of the real world, and a system for rational logic and planning. It's useful to test the current status quo in such a simplistic and fixed real-world task.

sam_goody 41 minutes ago

The error messages were truly epic, got quite a chuckle.

But boy am I glad that this is just in the play stage.

If someone was in a self driving car that had 19% battery left and it started making comments like those, they would definitely not be amused.

Finnucane 5 hours ago

I have a cat that will never fail to find the butter. Will it bring you the butter? Ha ha, of course not.

  • Theodores 3 hours ago

    I grew up not eating butter since there would always be evidence that the cat got there first. This was a case of 'ych a fi' - animal germs!

    Regarding the article, I am wondering where this butter in fridge idea came from, and at what latitude the custom becomes to leave it in a butter dish at room temperature.

zzzeek 3 hours ago

will noone claim the Rick and Morty reference? I've seen that show like, once and somehow I know this?

  • mywittyname an hour ago

    They pointed out the R&M reference in the paper.

    > The tasks in Butter-Bench were inspired by a Rick and Morty scene [21] where Rick creates a robot to pass butter. When the robot asks about its purpose and learns its function, it responds with existential dread: “What is my purpose?” “You pass butter.” “Oh my god.”

    I wouldn't have got the reference if not for the paper pointing it out. I think I'm a little old to be in the R&M demographic.

  • chuckadams 3 hours ago

    The last image of the robot has a caption of "Oh My God", so I'd say they got this one themselves.

  • anp an hour ago

    I was quite tickled to see this, I don’t remember why but I recently started rewatching the show. Perfect timing!

  • throwawaymaths 3 hours ago

    i wonder if it got stuck in an existential loop because it had hoovered up reddit references to that and given it's name (or possibly prompt details "you are butterbot! eg) thought to play along.

    are robots forever poisoned from delivering butter?

  • jayd16 an hour ago

    Good jokes don't need to be explained.

  • tuetuopay 2 hours ago

    their paper explicitly mentions the rick and morty robot as the inspiration for the benchmark

  • half-kh-hacker 2 hours ago

    the paper already says "Butter-Bench evaluates a model's ability to 'pass the butter' (Adult Swim, 2014)" so

hidelooktropic an hour ago

How can I get early access to this "Human" model on the benchmarks? /s

fsckboy 3 hours ago

>Our LLM-controlled office robot can't pass butter

was the script of Last Tango in Paris part of the training data? maybe it's just scared...